Psychedelics and Honoring Derek Scott with Michelle Glass

Episode: 187

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In this episode I chat with Michelle Glass, a certified IFS practitioner, licensed psilocybin facilitator, and author of Daily Parts Meditation Practice. We dive into the fascinating intersection of Internal Family Systems (IFS) and psychedelic-assisted therapy. Michelle shares her expertise in using IFS as a framework for understanding and navigating non-ordinary states of consciousness, both with and without psychedelics.

Key Takeaways:

  • Non-ordinary states are accessible both through IFS and psychedelic therapy, providing deeper connections to our inner world.
  • IFS creates a natural “roadmap” for working with protectors, exiles, and self-energy, making it an ideal companion for psychedelic journeys.
  • Gaining permission from protectors is essential before engaging in psychedelic-assisted therapy.
  • Psychedelics can act as a “key” to unlocking deeper Self Energy and facilitating healing.
  • Grief and legacy burdens often emerge as trailheads in both IFS and psychedelic journeys, opening opportunities for healing.
  • Integration is crucial after any journey—checking in with parts regularly helps sustain the benefits and deepen the healing process.

Favorite Quote:
“IFS provides a roadmap for the psychedelic space. When guides are IFS-informed, they know how to work with protectors, exiles, and self-energy safely and effectively.” – Michelle Glass​.

About Michelle Glass:
Michelle Glass is a Level 3 IFS practitioner, licensed psilocybin facilitator, and author of Daily Parts Meditation Practice: A Journey of Embodied Integration for Clients and Therapists. She combines her expertise in IFS and psychedelics to help individuals navigate deep healing experiences safely and effectively. Find out more about Michelle here.

Thank you to Pisgah Coaching Institute for sponsoring this episode.



Jeff Schrum co-produces The One Inside Podcast. He is an IFS Level 1 practitioner.  


Visual Clips of some podcast episodes are available on The One Inside’s YouTube channel.

Tammy is grateful for Jack Reardon who created music for the podcast. Jack is a graduate of Derek Scott’s IFS Stepping Stones Program.  

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